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Old 11-06-2009, 08:52 AM   #1
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i am looking to gain some mass with little to no extra fat and am looking at stacking Hdrol And C.E.L's EQ (along with cycle assist durring and novedex xt for PCT) does this look ideal? and i was planning to run the EQ-plex a week or 2 past H-drol. This is my first go around with PH's so any help would be very helpfull. One last Question both of these are dry PH's right? so i wont have any estrogen spill over?
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Old 11-06-2009, 03:36 PM   #2
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For your first PH run, you want to keep it simple and make sure you have everything covered. A great option for you to consider would be the Trifecta Stack from LG. It comes with everything you need including PCT and a dosing guide.

If you really want to stick with H-drol and EQ, there are a bunch of other threads on here that have it all laid out.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:35 PM   #3
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I'm running this same cycle here shortly. I would start the H-drol a little into the cycle and finish it the same time as EQ.

Example:
EQ: 400/600/600/600/600/600 <---Or some variation. Needs to be run six wks though.
Hdrol: 0/0/75/75/75/75 <---or maybe @ 50 being your first time

Novedex XT looks like a decent product. Think about adding a natural test booster and cortisol control in your 3rd wk of PCT. Also PCT assist from the get-go.

H-drol shouldn't convert to estragon. EQ-Plex has a small estragon conversion rate.

For a first cycle I would just run the H-drol solo (50/50/50/50), being your first time you should make pretty good gains. Get a feel for them before you start mixing & matching. But then again, it's your body.

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Old 11-06-2009, 10:33 PM   #4
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OP, the first questions that need to be addressed is age, diet and background before getting into any ph/ds talk. If this will indeed be your first stack, assuming you are 21 and have experience in the weight room, I'd concur that h-drol would be a good first one to run...solo. If you do, you can look at 6 weeks as generally people start getting results in the 3-4 week range. I'm 2 weeks into the same cycle right now and have really noticed acne at this point and a little strength increase.

In all honesty, you have to be at least 21 so we know your body is done growing, you don't want to f up your endo system. Plus, if you are under that age, your body's probably producing enough test already. Also, if your diet isn't on point, it doesn't matter what you are taking, you're not going to see the full benefit of it. Finally, if you're still new enough to body building that you are still seeing noob gains, there's no real reason to jump into this arena.

You answer the questions and if everything's a go, I'll hook you up with a solid solo h-drol cycle.
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