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ganate
01-11-2008, 07:50 PM
I have used a few products...

17hd = eh...gave me a heart attack during work outs. Not too bad. Some strength gains, but nothing too noticeable.

Methyl 1d with 1gh1 = nothing happened that wouldn't occur with a good diet and intense workouts.

Then i went to Sus500... I took 2 pills 2x's a day. I was just doing my thing, minding my own business and then...3 weeks later...15lbs (190-205). After 6 weeks major increase in bench (barely 275 to 315 4x's). But the best of all. People were making a lot of comments about my size increase. Granted i was not a huge lifter before this past year. More of a runner doing moderate weight training.

Prior to this cycle i was really uninformed on this type of product. I just wanted help and the guy at the nutrition store recommended this.

Since then i am much more informed and have some observations regarding this past cycle...Take a liver care product (my pee was much darker and then got lighter soon after i got off). Definitely, go to an estrogen blocker (i took novadex xt) i was getting itchy near the end (maybe i was paranoid...i'm okay now).

i would use it again. I just ordered 1ad...we'll see!

LeanMass
01-11-2008, 09:03 PM
Wow dude. that's a good testimony for Sus-500. I've looked at it before, but never took an interest in it. I have been stacking 1-AD with 4-AD and that's worked great for me. Has anyone else tried Sus-500?

ganate
01-12-2008, 07:28 PM
ergopharm? where did you get yours? that's what i got, but it was hard to find. I expect it to be more potent that sus. What does 4ad add to the cycle?

LeanMass
01-12-2008, 09:15 PM
It's Advanced Muscle Science (http://www.a1supplements.com/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=168) 1-AndroSterone and 4-AD. As far as stacking those 2 together. I have posted about them on this forum before http://forum.a1supplements.com/showthread.php?t=5529&highlight=stacking Check it out.